Fat Loss and The Carnivore Diet

Fat Loss and The Carnivore Diet

Fat Loss and The Carnivore Diet

how to lose fat on the carnivore dietPeople come to the Carnivore Diet for various reasons.

Some people experiment to regain physical or mental health. Some people want more focus and energy to fuel their work. Some want more performance in the gym and in their sport.

Many come from a Ketogenic Diet when joint pain or autoimmune issues linger or weight loss stalls.

But the #1 reason people come to The Carnivore Diet is for Fat Loss. 

Fat Loss on The Carnivore Diet (…and Fat Gain)

Daily I hear another 100lb+ fat loss story.

Frank just eats beef franks and his gut melted away. Sally’s bacon, egg, and beef diet chiseled out her bikini body. Success stories abound.

But the stories you aren’t hearing about are carnivore experimenters who gain body fat.

They follow the diet to the tee – they eat only meat, drink only water, and they gain weight.

Why the discrepancy? 

Carnivore Starting Point

When starting this diet, everyone comes from a different place.

Some people come from a SAD (Standard American Diet), some from Keto, some from decades of yo-yo dieting. Some start the diet with 40% body fat, some with 4%. Some people have gut issues and insulin resistance. Some are “fat-adapted” and others come from years of fat-restrict eating.

All of these different starting points impact the transition to a Carnivore Diet and whether someone will experience fat melting off their waistline or the scale tipping in the wrong direction.

John

Let’s say John is a 51 year old male who has eaten a SAD diet for decades.

He is pre-diabetic, 65lbs overweight, and doesn’t exercise. He decides to experiment with the Carnivore Diet. In the first 30 days he’s loses over 20lbs. He’s excited.

He decides to extend the experiment another 30 days. Another 15lbs fall off.

The experiment now has an indefinite timeline. All he’s doing is eating meat until he’s full. He prefers ribeyes and fatty beef cuts. He generally eats 2 times a day, though occasionally he eats just one, and other days he eats 3 meals. He listens to his appetite.

And 9 months down the road, he’s loving meat more than ever. It’s all he craves. He’s lost over 50lbs of fat and gained over 10lbs of muscle. He looks better than he did at 30. His blood sugar has dropped, and his energy has skyrocketed.

This story is not an outlier. This is common. 

But Sally had a different experience…

Sally

Let’s say Sally is a 42 year old female who has watched what she’s eaten for years.

In the past she’s tried vegan, the Mediterranean Diet, and most recently a Ketogenic Diet. She watches her calories and tracks her macros like a scientist. She does an hour of cardio 3 times per week and some light weights.

She’s gotten some good results with Keto but her fat loss has stalled. She also has an autoimmune disorder that hasn’t resolved.

She saw what the Carnivore Diet has done for John, so she decides to experiment herself.

She follows the diet to the tee – she “eats meat. drinks water.”

Unlike John however, Sally is ravenously hungry. She almost embarrassed by how much she eats.

She knows from the “Ultimate 30-Day Guide to Going Full Carnivore” that she isn’t suppose to track calories or macros but eat until satisfied. So she does.

The first 30 days go by and she’s gained 5lbs!

She considers going back to Keto. She considers staying Carnivore but cutting back on calories. But she remembers the “Warning” section in the 30-day guide she read. No tinkering.

She decides to stick with the experiment another 30 days, because her energy has been amazing and she’s seen improvements in her autoimmune disease. 

Another 30 days go by, and another couple pounds added to the scale.

Sally doesn’t know what to do. She’s feeling better than she can ever remember, but her weight is going in the wrong direction.

What’s going on…?

John vs Sally

John and Sally started the same diet from completely different points. John was obese and had never restricted a calorie in his life. His diet was composed of junk. A switch to the Carnivore Diet, or any diet, would lead to weight loss. Most people see dramatic improvements in body composition because most people are overweight/obese. They and the scale move in the right direction no matter how many steaks or how much bacon they eat.

John had some transition issues. He had some sugar cravings the first couple weeks but easily overcame them by eating more steak. His rapid success led to more motivation and more success.

Sally started off far leaner than John. She also couldn’t remember a time when she wasn’t restricting her diet in some way. When Sally was told she could eat as much meat as she wants without measuring or monitoring, two floodgates broke open.

  1. The first floodgate was the mental switch from famine to feast.
  2. The second floodgate was the complete nutrition meat provided her malnourished body.

For decades her body wasn’t getting the protein and fat it desired. She was deficient in micronutrients as well as macronutrients. She was malnourished. And when she finally started giving her body the nourishment it craved, it wanted to get as much of it as it could.

I was a “Sally.”

I came from a restricted Keto diet. I gained weight and fat when I started. My body needed it. My brain needed it.

Is the Carnivore Diet a Fat Loss Diet?

I get nervous when someone who is already lean and in good shape tells me they want to experiment with the Carnivore Diet for fat loss. Usually this person wants to get a ripped 6 pack or a bikini body with unnaturally low levels of body fat.

Eating a carnivore diet that is consistent with what we are designed to eat, results in natural body fat levels. And for most people, single digit body fat is not natural. The body feels a lot “safer” when it has a bit more energy reserves than that.

However, most people have body fat levels that are far above their natural set-point. And the further someone is above this natural set-point the more dramatic their results tend to be. But for people who are closer to their natural body fat (not to mention those who are already very lean) – they may experience the opposite – fat and weight gain.

Many people are just like John. They lose fat. And they lose it fast. They feel better. They look better. And they never think again about leaving the diet.

Yet, for every few “Johns” there is a “Sally.” It seems unfair, she was the one who has worked to stay health and get fit. But often a “Sally” has to take a step or two backwards before taking steps forward.

The First Step

The first, most important step, is getting healthy.

And “healthy” means something different for everyone.

It could be like John who was on the fast track for diabetes and cardiovascular disease who needed to reverse insulin resistance. Or it could be like Sally who needed to cure her gut and autoimmune issues and heal her mental hold on food and regulate her natural appetite.

The “healing” phase can take time.

If a “Sally” is coming from a good ketogenic diet it may take 3-6 months as her appetite regulates, hormones balance, and gut heals. To her it may seem like its 10 steps back and 1 step forward.

With a “John” it may take a year or more to reverse disease. But to him it may seem like every month is a step forward.

Whether you are a “John” or a “Sally” you need to achieve your “Homeostatic Carnivore Set-point.

This is stabilized health. 

There is no objective test for this but there are signs to look for. You will notice body weight/fat stabilizes at a healthy level. A level that most people are ecstatic to achieve. Sleep will become regular. Bowels will normalize. Mood will stabilize. Energy will be consistent. Diseases will remit.

This “natural set-point” is what most people want – a healthy body and healthy brain.

The natural body fat set-point will vary from person to person. Women tend to naturally carry more body fat than men. And there is a range of body fat percentage that people will settle in at. The higher one’s body fat prior to starting the Carnivore Diet, the longer it will take to achieve this natural set-point.

In fact, it can take years.

Most people get impatient and want to start tinkering before achieving this. They see the scale hasn’t moved in a week and they get anxious.

Weight loss is not linear. Often people gain muscle in tandem with fat loss on the Carnivore Diet. The scale can be misleading.

Forget the scale and forget the clock. Regain health. Achieve a natural appetite, normal hunger signals, and natural body fat.

Then, if – and this is a big “IF” – you want to get leaner, there are some tinkering strategies with calories/macros.

Tinkering with the Carnivore Diet

BUT – what if you want that bikini body and the shredded abs…?

I don’t think people should consider tinkering with the Carnivore eiet until Step 1 is complete. Because by the end of “Step 1” 99% of people will be better than they ever dreamed possible – in terms of health but also body composition. They don’t ever need to consider “tinkering” – they just need to be patient.

But what if you’ve been patient, you’re healthy, and you still want to get even leaner…

I’m as guilty as anyone else.

I like to have and stay at low body fat levels. Lower than my body would stabilize at naturally.

It’s important to know that there are trade-offs to getting super lean.

Energy will tend to suffer. Hunger will elevate. Hormones will adjust.

So if you’ve achieved your “Homeostatic Carnivore Set-point” and still want to get leaner, here are some strategies you can use:

Fat Loss Strategies

Strategy #1: Stick with “Level 2”

The first strategy I would use is “Sticking in Level 2” (in the 30-day guide) for the most part. This means removing things like dairy and cheeses cheeses, added fats like butter, and things like pork rinds that are easy to overeat. Stick with lots of fresh meat. This alone can get you to where you want to be.

Strategy #2: Protein

The next step would be to alter your macronutrient ratios. I wouldn’t recommend counting calories or even protein/fat grams. Rather, by this point you should have a good idea of how many pounds of meat/day you eat. Just substitute in some leaner cuts or trim the fat off the fattier cuts.

For example, I ate a lot of strip steaks. Typically, I would eat all the fat and the meat. However, if I wanted to lean out a bit more, I would trim the fat off the side of the strip instead of eating it.

Or if I know I eat 3lbs of beef/day, and I want to lose a bit more fat, I would continue to eat 3lbs of meat/day but I would choose leaner cuts.

Strategy #3: Fat-Cycle

I recommend using this strategy in tandem with Strategy #2. One to two times per week I would increase my fat intake back to normal levels. On these days, don’t trim the fat. This helps with energy, hormones, appetite, and preventing some of the trade-offs that come from getting unnaturally lean.

Strategy #4: Intermittent Fasting

Many people naturally intermittent fast to some degree on a Carnivore Diet. But limiting yourself to an 8 hour window each day in which you can eat can help further fat loss.

Strategy #5: Before Bed

If you want to know if you’re on the right track with your daily eating, go to bed with the feeling “I could eat.” It’s not a feeling of starvation or dying to eat a meal. But just a simple, light “I could eat” type feeling.

Strategy #6: Cardio

Going into cardio and weight training is beyond this article, but a simple concept that can help continue fat loss in the “unnatural territory” is cardio. Use a progressive approach. If you are use to doing zero cardio, then maybe start doing 20 minutes 3X/week. Evaluate results. Want more fat loss, bump it up to 30 minutes 5X/week. Evaluate. Slowly progress. I strongly recommend weight training to preserve as much lean body mass as possible as well. And if you are not accustomed to weight training or cardio, I’d start with the weights, and then slowly add the cardio in from there.

99% of People

The vast majority of people never need to “tinker” with The Carnivore Diet. It is why I was hesitant to even write this. However, for those vain like myself, these strategies can help you get “unnaturally” lean – just beware of the trade-offs you make with the devil 🙂

If you’d like to learn more about how to optimize body composition with a meat-based / carnivore diet, I’d highly recommend watching the Meat Health Masterclass:

71 Replies to “Fat Loss and The Carnivore Diet”

  1. HI, I have been doing carnivore for the past month with great success. My question/concern is about bowel movements. Can you elaborate on this? how often is it normal to go? and if I’m not doing that what should I do?

    1. The point is – is if fat loss is your goal you should go to bed with the feeling that “I could eat” meaning very slightly hungry.

  2. HI! I’ve recently started your Level 1 2.5 weeks ago and I want to continue for as long as possible – I’m 25, 5’5, and probably 140 lbs at this point (I don’t use a scale) and I have been bulimic/anorexic cycling for ten years but 6 months ago became Keto – I’ve now switched to Carnivore after reading your guide and I do feel a lot better. The weight gain/fat gain(?) is happening so fast it’s a bit scary – I don’t quite have the energy yet to exercise. In fact i haven’t been much into exercise my whole life but hope to move in that direction. (i’m on my feet 6 hours a day working and right now thats about where my energy level is) Do you think adding exercise is important this early on? And do you because I’m pretty young that this weight gain period will end relatively soon? I’m eating grass fed ground beef and occasional bacon (to satiety..2.5 lbs per day) and coffee. I know it’s my body re-calibrating but it’s certainly a test to my commitment to carnivore. Should I lift some weights and such?…I came to carnivore to help my hunger cues and appetite regulate, so this body composition factor is something I’m just now understanding, (I just wanted to be healthy) I also lost my cycle months ago after I began prolonged fasting once a month (not doing that anymore for the time being)
    Anyway thanks for all your incredible information!

    1. First, congratulations on working to get your diet/health under control 🙂 I know that’s not easy.

      Second, I think exercise is always a good idea – I’d start with whatever you can do (if you can learn to enjoy to lift weights that would be my top recommendation), and enjoy and go from there.

      Third, I would strongly advise reading this guide:
      https://meat.health/how-to-lose-fat-on-the-carnivore-diet-2/
      I would pay special attention to Part I – but with your diet history, I’d expect the body to take some time to heal.

      If you can focus on the benefits: how much more energy you have, how good you feel, finally be satiated, menstrual cycle returning, your relationship with food improving, and no longer obsessing with calories/quantities/measuring and monitoring (speaking from experience :), etc…the body comp will come along in time.

      1. Oh my gosh! like magic my cycle came back today – I’m feeling so much better each day! it’s really crazy. I appreciate the support. I read the guide over and over until it really sank inn (part 1 especially) thank you!

  3. I’m two weeks out from a powerlifting competition, following the above to go from 77kg to 75kg. I could water cut some if it doesn’t come off as I’m pretty lean already thanks to carnivore. I’ll let you know how it goes, I’ve been carnivore for 6 months but have cut out cream, cheese and pork rinds for this.

  4. Dear Kevin, first of all: thank you for the high quality content you put out! It’ remarkable what you’re doing and I’m super grateful! I’m 4weeks into “mostly” Carnivore Diet now, as I had to switch to “keto” while on a 10 day holiday with my family. So here’s the question: I can feel my heart beating much heavier and sometimes even have trouble falling asleep due to it. In the first two to three weeks I had heart racing sometimes, I assume that’s normal during adaptation phase but the “heavy heart” has not changed. I do have few thought for possible reasons but as you can guess, the heart issue really makes me a little scared of the whole carnivore lifestyle. I eat lots of beef, different kinds of fish, some pork and chicken. I’ve eaten some organ meat but not from beef and definitely less than once per week. The last few days I woke up with a numb foot sole, which is another reason for concern. Hope you have some advice! I’d appreciate it a lot. Much love from Germany, keep it up!

    1. Thanks so much – and did you read the 30 Day Guide (you can download it over on the left) – talks about symptoms and what to do that I think you’ll find helpful.

  5. Dr Stock,

    I went Carnivore for 3 months to try and heal chronic Lyme disease and Chronic Fatigue Syndrome after being nearly bedridden by Toxic Black Mold. I lost 7 lbs the first week an addition 9 after. O had a lot of energy, less pain and no brain fog. I also felt “wired up” and had insomnia at times. This didn’t help my anxiety. I also had diarrhea most of the time. There were benefits and drawbacks.

    I got bored and went off for a period of 2.5 months. I am now back on it again, 1 week in. This time is much different. Ive barely lost 2 lbs. I literally cannot sleep more than 2 hours a night. No bowel movements hardly at all. I shake all day despite eating to hunger and using 5g of Real Salt or Himalayan salt, supplement potassium and take copiys amounts of Magnesium ( I did this prior anyways due to Lyme). My ears constantly ring and my heart beats out of my chest most of the day.

    Ideas why the experiences are different? Am I doing something wrong? I’ve tried eatimg more, Magnesium, GABA, Melatonin and even a muscle relaxer to sleep. Nothing helps. One serving of carbs and I’d be out like a though, from past experience. I do have adrenal fatigue and it’s like someone turned on the cortisol pump at full blast.
    Help? I don’t want to give up yet.
    Thanks, Melissa

    1. I’m sorry to hear about the struggle – you are having to go through a large hormonal shift, fluid re-balancing, and it can be rough. As to why it’s worse this time, I can’t say for sure.

      And you are probably right, cortisol is often very high early in this transition.

      If you haven’t gone through the 30-day guide to going full carnivore I really recommend starting there (https://meat.health)

      A last resort option (which can draw out the adaptation) is to do as you mentioned, add small amount of carbs to meals and then slowly scale it to just your last meal, and then maybe every other day, ect…this can help ease the transition, but like I said can also draw it out. Hope you’re feeling better soon!

    2. Melissa, does the diarrhea get quite bad? I’m new to Carnivore (literally day 1 today) but I used to take magnesium regularly. One of the side effects of magnesium use is looser stool, and even diarrhea if taking too much.
      When I first started taking it I took too much (didn’t realise how powerful it was) and thought I was dying because my diarrhea and stomach cramping was so bad. Carnivore often causes diarrhea when you’re first starting out, so I imagine the combination could make your side effects much worse. Might be a good idea to cut back on magnesium while doing carnivore, or to go a few days without

  6. hi Kevin,
    Thank you so much for the great information. I have recently started carnivore coupled with IM fasting – (aiming for warrior), however, I am concerned that I am not getting enough calories within this 4 hours window. I have struggled before with calorie restriction where my metabolism slowed right down, and I’m concerned about this happening again…should I be?

    1. I don’t think IF is ideal for body composition. Yes, it absolutely can be used as a strategy and some people do find it helpful, but in general, I don’t recommend it.

      I’d recommend following the guide (just uploaded an updated version at Meat Health – https://meat.health) – all the info is in there, and let me know if something doesn’t make sense of if you have further questions.

  7. Hey Kevin, I love all the helpful information you send out. I was keto for 2 1/2 years lost 100 lbs. veggies started to be a problem for me after having my gallbladder out. I stopped losing and was very bloated all the time. I switched to carnivore 2 months ago. Have not lost or gained on the scale but my pants seem to be fitting more snug. I walk my 5 miles + a day and do a very light tone weight for my arms, and about 40 or more squats every night. That’s the extent to my exercise. I am 5 4” and 140 lb I would love to lose 10 more lbs but it’s been literally impossible. Please any advice appreciated!?

  8. Hello, Kevin. Thank you for this article. I have been carnivore for 2 years and have recently begun body weight training and moderate walk/runs on alternating days. I exercise about 4.5 hours a week. I am a 56-year-old female, post-menopause, 125 lbs. and 62″ tall. I estimate my body fat at 28%. My question is: do I need to concern myself about the fat-burning zone? As a carnivore, aren’t I always in my fat-burning zone?

    1. Your weight training and cardio really depend on your goals – but no need to worry about any “fat-burning” zone.

  9. o my…that Sally is exactly ME! I have so much bigger appetite in carnivore and tend to eat more and more…and I came from KETO eating 1200 calories. Ok, I am a small lady, so 1200 wasn’t really bad…but I am getting so much bulkier in less than 2 months…I am thinking to go back to keto :-(( but veggies make me BLOAT like a balloon!

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